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A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:08 pm
by Uintadave
Is there a way to allow the switch to ignore BPDU's and just let them pass? I can not find a way to have the switch do this. In order to patch this shortcoming I had to place a switch in front of the switch on the trunk ports so that BPDU's could be seen on the other trunk ports.

Here is a basic setup.
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We assign a VLAN per port so that the trunk can move around what port is used by simply moving the VLAN on the interface. This has been very useful when say a SFP interface decides to act up and a good way to control pause frames. What we need is BPDU's to be un altered and allowed to pass from one trunk port to another. With it blocking the BPDU's it causes RSTP to have an incorrect topology and results in loops. When I put a dumb switch on the trunk ports before plugging them into the netonix the BPDU's were passed and it worked correctly.

So is there a CLI or some way of telling the switch to not mess with BPDU's? We are using FW 1.5.5

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:37 pm
by Stephen

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:21 pm
by Uintadave
Stephen, Thanks for the reply. I still need a little bit of clarification.

Is it possible to enable BPDU passthrough on an Netonix switch? Or is this a feature that you are refusing to allow because you do not see a use for it? It appears others have needed it and I do need it now.

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:36 pm
by mike99
No, the switch don't support L2CP that allow to encapsulate L2 protocols.

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:00 pm
by Uintadave
Thank you Mike for the answer.

I suppose I have two options for this setup then.

I can put a switch in front of each switch to get the desired functionality or

I can just use something like a CRS328-24P-4S+RM for the AP's. Sure it can't power a AF24 or a Siklu but I will only need the RSTP for the access not links, and it has SFP+.

Thank you for the quick response.

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:20 pm
by mike99
Or use a passive PoE injector. WS3 have a carrier class switch chip that support more features (not sure which one exactly since I don't have the vitesse doc). Maybe the new line could support it eventually.

Re: A way to pass BPDU's?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:26 pm
by LRL
I would not think passing BPDU's when the switch is not STP aware as a mistake merely the proper function as anything that is actually stp aware would only detects loops if BPDUs are passed through.

In much older Netonix firmware versions BPDU's were passed through if STP was disabled. We are looking for this functionality that existed years ago. If memory serves the switch chip would yank BPDU's once it had STP config pushed to it, if there a way to remove that achieve this?