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Hey y'all,

Sorry this is a bit wordy; I'm hoping some combined experience present here can help me out.

My wisp is a little over a year old now. I've spent a lot of time in the UBNT forums. I have been using UBNT AC gear delivering 100mbps+ service to a suburban environment in a city near home, and have had some awesome WoM. It's been a lot of fun. Nothing like slipping flyers in doors until your feet fall off!

It's growing, and I want to do things differently while it's still young to future proof my service as 4k streaming becomes more prevalent, and to keep up with the wireline providers. I don't see ubnt's ptmp taken seriously in ~5 years, unless they develop an AirFiber ptmp solution, which would be awesome. The AC team seems to struggle, which isn't necessarily a bad thing (my equipment has worked fine), but it's taken so long to develop an across-the-board stable platform, that I foresee them falling behind in the platform race as time passes. I do appreciate the quality of the product for the price though.

I want to create a bunch of mesh/rings, using siklu EH-1200FX or EH-2200FX to backhaul the service from micropop to micropop, and I want to use Mimosa A5-14 "quamni's" for ptmp to customers. I think they'll work great for the application I want to use them in when they get TDMA and GPS sync working. Each micropop will have 2-3 siklus, and 1 Mimosa A5-14. Ubnt has been good for me so far, but the coverage area/customer capacity ratio isn't what I need. 40 customer limit per AP will be a brick wall soon when I run out of spectrum with such large coverage areas. 1000' coverage diameter of the A5-14 and higher customer capacity will be great with such a densely populated suburban environment.

Before anyone freaks out about cost, I have enough funding to carry this out. I'm hoping to pick up 10k-20k customers in the next 5-10 years or so. I'm going to need to hire a few people, and of course, MORE flyers!!! (Hopefully Hillary/Trump don't destroy America before I reach my goal )

I'm HOPING that one of the smaller WISP Switches will be able to power all 3-4 devices. That would be SO much easier than retrofitting a micropop enclosure to accommodate individual PoE's. Just batteries and a WISP switch in a box would be so awesome. I read in the forums here that Siklu's generally require a 48VH port. I'm looking at the WS-10-250-AC, which has two 48VH ports. This looks like the cheapest option available that has what I need, but according to the Mimosa data sheet, the A5-14 also requires 48v.

On the micropops that have 3 silku's, I'm probably just going to have to put a PoE brick in the enclosure. But the smaller the enclosure and less variables to worry about, the better.

I guess my main question is, will Mimosa be able to run with a regular 48V PoE port? Mimosa's PoE data sheet information:

"802.3at and Passive PoE compliant, 48-56 V Power over Ethernet supply with IEC61000-4-5 surge protection"

I have a lot to learn when it comes to PoE. I'll learn as I go. This has been a great learning experience thus far.

If people care or are interested, I'll post pics and stories with WISP Switch implementations as I go. I watched Chris' Netonix movie, and I love it! It has everything that I need/want, and it seems like an all around solid switch.

Here is a poorly drawn overview of what I want to do. My, erm... pet monkey drew it. Not me. Yeah.






Any additional advice in general would be appreciated as this is a large project. Has anyone here ever created a ring/mesh topology like this before?
Thank you for your time!

I power some of my MIMOSA radios with 48V, especially OK if cable length is short.

Only radios that I have found that NEED 48VH are AF24, AF5, and other expensive higher end PTP links, especially on short cables.

You might want to look at using the WS-12-250-AC over the WS-10-250-AC as it is the same physical size but gives you FOUR 48VH ports.

The next production of WS-12-400-AC which is Rev F offers SIX 48VH ports in a slightly bigger chassis.