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Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:31 am
by jjonsson
Any idea if I can run 1 Gbps between 2 wISP switches when cable length will be 125 meters (410 feets). Will it work ?
I will use TOUGHcable Carrier.....

If I have to pull fiber, it will be to expensive as I need a fiber capable switch in both ends + SFP moduls....

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:32 am
by jjonsson
My plan is to use 2 x WS-6-MINI. I will connect the cable at each end in a 50 V PoE (AF PoE), that powers the switches....

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:24 am
by sirhc
Hooking 2 switches together that are on different AC power services and thus (2) different Earth Grounds which means 2 different ground potentials is not such a good idea. You will constantly burn out Ethernet ports if not switches.

I would use fiber.

Now if you were going to power the WS-6-MINI over the Ethernet and did not need much additional POE watts at the other end you could do that?

However if your powering a radio with the far side WS-6-MINI even if it is powered from POE in on port 1 then the radio from that seconds WS-6-MINI gets grounded to another Earth Ground source then you still have 2 different ground potentials which is also bad again.

It is important that everything connected via copper share the same Earth ground potential.

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:37 am
by lligetfa
:agree: with Chris. If this is a horizontal run with unbonded disparate grounds, it is a recipe for trouble.

It is not clear however what you mean by "I will connect the cable at each end in a 50 V PoE". I assume that both locations have their own AC mains and that you don't intend to push PoE power over that long run. If that is the case, I would up the game to use switches with SFP ports and run fiber between them. That, or use the new Ubiquiti PoE powered media converters.

https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:03 pm
by WisTech
Agreed. We had this discussion just the other day didn't we Chris? ;)

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:58 am
by jjonsson
It's within same building, so exact same earth grounding. I just need to place equipment in both ends of the house and total cable run is around 125 meters...

Unfortunately https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ is not available in Europe yet.

Preconnectorized fibercable + mediaconverters / SFP modules + switches is to expensive. I can't use SFP+WS-6-MINI, instead I need WS-10-250-AC in both ends + SFP modules = To expensive :-(

Twisted Pair CAT 5e standard says 90 meters. This cable need to be 125 meters. Will it work ? Have anyone tried similar ?

I will power the WS-6-MINI switch with an AirFiber 50V PoE brick. And I will have 1 x WS-6-MINI in both ends, so that will be 2 x switches and 2 x PoE bricks...


So just a plain EtherNet connection with 125 meters cable run between switches ? Will it work ?

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:52 am
by sirhc
I personally have ran CAT5e over 125 and it worked.

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:04 am
by lligetfa
sirhc wrote:I personally have ran CAT5e over 125 and it worked.

Me too but would not do gig.

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:30 pm
by jjonsson
sirhc wrote:I personally have ran CAT5e over 125 and it worked.


Did it do 1 Gbps ?

Re: Cable length between 2 wISP switches ?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:17 pm
by sirhc
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Sorry, many variables such as cable quality and noise along cable runs such as electric wires and florescent lights.