Hello
Does Netonix power the Siklu Etherhaul EH-1200 units?
If so what will be the voltage setting?
Thank you
LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWITCHES
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
As you can see this unit is not in this list: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1215&start=70#p18876
Therefore you need to follow the instructions laid out here in this post: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178#p8809
So let's first look at the Spec sheet for the radio which I easily found here: https://www.siklu.com/wp-content/upload ... ies-V1.pdf
Note it says it uses 37C to 57V DC so you know you need 48V or 48VH
Note that it says 802.3at+ but does not specify MODE A or MODE B or MODE A&B which uses all 4 pair.
It also says that it uses a MAX of 26W to (40W if model EH-1200F)
Now 40W if this is Model EH-1200F is pushing the upper limit of 48V
The fact that it is "active" POE thus called 802.3at+ means it probably uses a POE controller chip which has a bridge rectifier circuit in it similar to say MIMOSA radios or our WS-6-MINI.
So me personally I would probably use 48VH which is the same POE option reported by another user for the Siklu 2200FX radio in the list provided in the link above.
I am not responsible if any damage happens this is just a suggestion.
But if you read the other post above it explains how to use a volt ohm meter and factory supplied POE brick and figure out the polarity on each pin.
I am a firm believer in teaching people how to fish not providing a fish every day.
Therefore you need to follow the instructions laid out here in this post: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178#p8809
Question: Can I power this device with Netonix.
Answer: Our switches are "passive" POE which means if POE is enabled on a port the power is live so if you plug in a cable that is shorted or the piece of equipment is bad or has an incompatible polarity PIN OUT you will damage the port in the switch and probably the equipment, this damage is not covered under warranty.
There are 4 Pairs and 8 PINs in an Ethernet Cable:
Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is POSITIVE
Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is NEGATIVE
Pair 3: White Blue.....(PIN 4) & Blue.....(PIN 5) is POSITIVE
Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is NEGATIVE
24V POE Option @ .75A - constant draw can surge/spike to 1A:
802.3af/at MODE B [i]pinout[/i]
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
48V POE Option @.75A - constant draw can surge/spike to 1A:
802.3af/at MODE B [i]pinout[/i]
You would use this option to power most 802.3af/at devices like IP Phones and Cameras
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
24VH POE Option @1.5A - constant draw can surge/spike to 2A:
802.3af/at MODE A & MODE B [i]pinout combined[/i]
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
48VH POE Option @1.5A - constant draw can surge/spike to 2A:
802.3af/at MODE A & MODE B [i]pinout combined[/i]
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
So now that you know what the PIN OUT is (which is in our Spec Sheet on page 17 and in the product description on our web store) all you need to do is look at the spec sheet from your device and see which POE option you can use.
If they do not specify the PIN OUT polarity break out a multi-meter and but one end off of a patch cable and strip the wires and figure it out on your own.
Also if they have a bridge rectifier circuit like MIMOSA the device will swap the polarity the way it wants it.
WARNING - If your equipment is not specifically designed to accept power on all 4 Pairs do NOT use a VH POE option.
So let's first look at the Spec sheet for the radio which I easily found here: https://www.siklu.com/wp-content/upload ... ies-V1.pdf
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Note it says it uses 37C to 57V DC so you know you need 48V or 48VH
Note that it says 802.3at+ but does not specify MODE A or MODE B or MODE A&B which uses all 4 pair.
It also says that it uses a MAX of 26W to (40W if model EH-1200F)
Now 40W if this is Model EH-1200F is pushing the upper limit of 48V
The fact that it is "active" POE thus called 802.3at+ means it probably uses a POE controller chip which has a bridge rectifier circuit in it similar to say MIMOSA radios or our WS-6-MINI.
So me personally I would probably use 48VH which is the same POE option reported by another user for the Siklu 2200FX radio in the list provided in the link above.
I am not responsible if any damage happens this is just a suggestion.
But if you read the other post above it explains how to use a volt ohm meter and factory supplied POE brick and figure out the polarity on each pin.
I am a firm believer in teaching people how to fish not providing a fish every day.
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
Siklu Etherhaul EH-1200 works with 48V and 48VH without any issues
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
Hey Guys,
Im struggling with this POE++ concept it seems like there are so many different versions of this ? I have an Alcoma MP400 link and NEC Pasolink pinout as below even though its claimed at POE++ the polarities are not the same. Do you think 48VH can work here?
NEC Pasolink same pinout also claims POE++
Im struggling with this POE++ concept it seems like there are so many different versions of this ? I have an Alcoma MP400 link and NEC Pasolink pinout as below even though its claimed at POE++ the polarities are not the same. Do you think 48VH can work here?
NEC Pasolink same pinout also claims POE++
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
Your picture has nothing to do with POE polarity it is discussing communications + and -
Therefore you need to follow the instructions laid out here in this post: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178#p8809
So if you own a Volt Ohm Meter simple use it to map what polarity the provided POE supply is providing on what PINS.
From what I can tell the radio says it uses 802.3af/at with a MAX of 35 watts so 48V should be OK??????
You need to map out the provided POE adapter to be sure.
Therefore you need to follow the instructions laid out here in this post: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178#p8809
Question: Can I power this device with Netonix.
Answer: Our switches are "passive" POE which means if POE is enabled on a port the power is live so if you plug in a cable that is shorted or the piece of equipment is bad or has an incompatible polarity PIN OUT you will damage the port in the switch and probably the equipment, this damage is not covered under warranty.
There are 4 Pairs and 8 PINs in an Ethernet Cable:
Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is POSITIVE
Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is NEGATIVE
Pair 3: White Blue.....(PIN 4) & Blue.....(PIN 5) is POSITIVE
Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is NEGATIVE
24V POE Option @ .75A - constant draw can surge/spike to 1A:
802.3af/at MODE B [i]pinout[/i]
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
48V POE Option @.75A - constant draw can surge/spike to 1A:
802.3af/at MODE B [i]pinout[/i]
You would use this option to power most 802.3af/at devices like IP Phones and Cameras
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
24VH POE Option @1.5A - constant draw can surge/spike to 2A:
802.3af/at MODE A & MODE B [i]pinout combined[/i]
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
48VH POE Option @1.5A - constant draw can surge/spike to 2A:
802.3af/at MODE A & MODE B [i]pinout combined[/i]
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE
So now that you know what the PIN OUT is (which is in our Spec Sheet on page 17 and in the product description on our web store) all you need to do is look at the spec sheet from your device and see which POE option you can use.
If they do not specify the PIN OUT polarity break out a multi-meter and but one end off of a patch cable and strip the wires and figure it out on your own.
Also if they have a bridge rectifier circuit like MIMOSA the device will swap the polarity the way it wants it.
WARNING - If your equipment is not specifically designed to accept power on all 4 Pairs do NOT use a VH POE option.
So if you own a Volt Ohm Meter simple use it to map what polarity the provided POE supply is providing on what PINS.
From what I can tell the radio says it uses 802.3af/at with a MAX of 35 watts so 48V should be OK??????
You need to map out the provided POE adapter to be sure.
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Siklu Multihaul
Curious if anyone has tested the Siklu Multihaul on 48VH on the Netonix switches?
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Re: Siklu Multihaul
jedler wrote:Curious if anyone has tested the Siklu Multihaul on 48VH on the Netonix switches?
Why would you start a NEW thread for this?
There is a thread for this very subject: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1215#p9040
This is how in formation gets spread out all over the place. I am moving your post and this answer to the proper thread
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
Has anyone tested a Dahua security camera, or better yet this model - https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/ ... tail/20117 on it?
The camera is 802.3at as per the specs..
Reading the switch it apperas it MAY support it, but I'm nervous to try :)
The camera is 802.3at as per the specs..
Reading the switch it apperas it MAY support it, but I'm nervous to try :)
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
I would not be nervous with any 802.11af or 802.11at device since the standard pin out for those devices is the same as the ones used by Netonix.
Passive device are more dangerous since the're no standard for passive POE. but Netonix follows the 802.3af/at PIN out standards.
Passive device are more dangerous since the're no standard for passive POE. but Netonix follows the 802.3af/at PIN out standards.
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT
bpnz wrote:Has anyone tested a Dahua security camera, or better yet this model - https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/ ... tail/20117 on it?
The camera is 802.3at as per the specs..
Reading the switch it apperas it MAY support it, but I'm nervous to try :)
mike99 wrote:I would not be nervous with any 802.11af or 802.11at device since the standard pin out for those devices is the same as the ones used by Netonix.
Passive device are more dangerous since the're no standard for passive POE. but Netonix follows the 802.3af/at PIN out standards.
We follow the 802.3af/at polarity PIN out.
Our switches will power any 802.3af/at device with 48V POE option - DO NOT USE 48VH
We explain all this in detail here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178#p8809
And this chart is in the PDF Spec Sheet: http://www.netonix.com/media/wysiwyg/ws-specsheet.pdf
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